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Message 129 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 20:24:30 UTC

Hi,
I started some days ago crunching on this project.
I observed that I randomly get 32bit or 64 bit application on my 64bit lunux ubuntu. The problem is that 32bit version is very very very slow. 64bit takes 2.8h, 32bit takes 6.7h :O
I want to force boinc to get only 64bit version, and I kwnow I can do that via app_info.xml.
Can you please tell me what I have to put in app_info?
I tried this one

<app_info>
<app>
<name>wanless2</name>
<user_friendly_name>Random-base WEP Factorization</user_friendly_name>
</app>

<file_info>
<name>wep_1.13_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>

<app_version>
<app_name>wanless2</app_name>
<version_num>113</version_num>
<cmdline></cmdline>
<file_ref>
<file_name>wep_1.13_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

</app_info>

but I get this error when I try to get some wus:
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:23 CEST | wanless2 | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:23 CEST | wanless2 | Requesting new tasks for CPU
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:25 CEST | wanless2 | Scheduler request completed: got 4 new tasks
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:25 CEST | wanless2 | Messaggio dal server del progetto:: Unknown app name in app_info.xml
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:25 CEST | wanless2 | [error] App version returned from anonymous platform project; ignoring
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:25 CEST | wanless2 | [error] No app version found for app wep platform i686-pc-linux-gnu ver 109 class ; discarding wep_1342759398_8021_3
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:25 CEST | wanless2 | [error] No app version found for app wep platform i686-pc-linux-gnu ver 109 class ; discarding wep_1343364438_1205_2
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:25 CEST | wanless2 | [error] No app version found for app wep platform i686-pc-linux-gnu ver 109 class ; discarding wep_1343364438_1250_2
lun 30 lug 2012 22:21:25 CEST | wanless2 | [error] No app version found for app wep platform i686-pc-linux-gnu ver 109 class ; discarding wep_1343364438_1257_2


Can you help me?
Thanks
Simone

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Message 130 - Posted: 1 Aug 2012, 15:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 129.

I don't know whether the following page would be helpful:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
?
I'm thinking specifically of the tag.
J
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Message 131 - Posted: 1 Aug 2012, 17:02:48 UTC - in response to Message 130.

Yes, it could be an idea. But if I use <no_alt_platform> I have problems with other projects which have only 32bit application.

Can you please tell me which is the exac app_name of your app? When you created the app you had to write in project.xml something like:

<app>
<name>??</name>
<user_friendly_name>Random-base WEP Factorization</user_friendly_name>
</app>

What did you put in <name>?

Thank you very much :)

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Message 132 - Posted: 1 Aug 2012, 17:11:29 UTC - in response to Message 131.

Yes, it could be an idea. But if I use I have problems with other projects which have only 32bit application.


But all your computers should be crunching WEP!!! :)))

Can you please tell me which is the exac app_name of your app? When you created the app you had to write in project.xml something like:

??
Random-base WEP Factorization

What did you put in ?



x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
Linux/AMD64 (unknown)


x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Linux/AMD64 (pc)



Thank you very much :)


Thank _you_ very much for your continued interest and (hopefully) persistence... it seems you're a step ahead of me...
J

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Message 133 - Posted: 1 Aug 2012, 17:14:39 UTC - in response to Message 132.

...and in case this wasn't what you meant, the app itself is just called 'wep'
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Message 134 - Posted: 1 Aug 2012, 20:09:25 UTC - in response to Message 133.

mmmm
it doesn't work :(

One other question: in your project.xml file you have these rows?

<platform>
<name>anonymous</name>
<user_friendly_name>anonymous</user_friendly_name>
</platform>


The anonymous platform allow me to use app_info.xml, and the choose which executable I want to run.
If you don't have these lines, please add them and run xadd.
If you don't want to get in this trouble, no problem ;)


PS: I also admin a boinc project :)

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Message 147 - Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 13:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 133.
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Sending 1.09 32bit app for 64bit machines might be dissalowed by

<prefer_primary_platform>1</prefer_primary_platform>
on the server side (config.xml). I mean that could be helpful for any cruncher and for the project too. Less erased 1.09 32bit tasks on the cruncher side and raised effort on the project side.

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Message 153 - Posted: 27 Mar 2013, 15:15:04 UTC

I am having this problem as well. My 64bit Ubuntu client is receiving 1.09 32bit application to crunch, which take about 3-4x more time to crunch than the standard 1.13 app for 64bit.

To admin: can you please fix this issue. I don't want to feel like I am wasting CPU time...

Thank you very much! :-)

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Message 155 - Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 16:47:34 UTC - in response to Message 153.

I have the same problem and I am NOT going to do app_info's on 11 systems... besides, only 9 running wep at the moment...

LOL!

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Message 156 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 16:16:33 UTC - in response to Message 130.
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I don't know whether the following page would be helpful:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
?
I'm thinking specifically of the <no_alt_platform> tag.
J


I just tried that... I suppose it is a value the server would need to see because it still sent some 1.09 tasks to my 64b machines... Sooo, I suppose it takes a while for the server to figure it out... I'll let it run more and see..

Sigh...

It's my dollar to spend on hardware and electricity; like others, I like to run the most efficient tasks possible.

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Message 157 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 14:38:02 UTC - in response to Message 156.
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I just tried that... I suppose it is a value the server would need to see because it still sent some 1.09 tasks to my 64b machines... Sooo, I suppose it takes a while for the server to figure it out... I'll let it run more and see..

8-)


Well, restarting BOINC cured the problem... Seems simply reading the cc_config doesn't do it... so that is a temporary fix... but it does prevent other projects from sending tasks...

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