Time for a 64-bit ARM application? Other platfforms?

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Dirk Broer Send message Joined: 6 Dec 13 Posts: 14 Credit: 13,933,168 RAC: 34,939	Message 544 - Posted: 16 Oct 2021, 10:05:35 UTC Last modified: 16 Oct 2021, 10:07:23 UTC
There are both 32-bit and 64-bit x86 applications for Apple OS and Linux/x86, but so far the ARM application is only 32-bit and only for Linux/ARM My idea is that the project will served by a 64-bit Linux/Aarch64 application in the view of Apple's move to ARM and the rise of 64-bit SBCs (e.g. Raspberry Pi 4, Odroid-N2) Other missing platforms are Android/ARM, both 32-bit and 64-bit, and PPC (for old Macs, either OSX or Linux, both 32-bit and 64-bit). ____________
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bearnol Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Dec 06 Posts: 290 Credit: 9,151,631 RAC: 8,046	Message 545 - Posted: 17 Oct 2021, 19:06:12 UTC - in response to Message 544.
It’s on my todo list, coincidentally… (a 64-bit ARM Linux app) [so definitely agree] Actually I’ve already made a suitable app, I believe, and am planning to install it on my test project very soon, and if all goes well hopefully live fairly soon after that - so watch this space… J ____________
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bearnol Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Dec 06 Posts: 290 Credit: 9,151,631 RAC: 8,046	Message 546 - Posted: 17 Oct 2021, 19:15:18 UTC - in response to Message 545.
…though I suppose I ought to add: Thanks very much to the UserLAnd devs for re-enabling 32-bit mode loading, which has at least allowed me (and us) to use the 32-bit app on Android. In my early tests, the as-yet unreleased 64-bit app is almost exactly 4 times faster tho’ ____________
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Dirk Broer Send message Joined: 6 Dec 13 Posts: 14 Credit: 13,933,168 RAC: 34,939	Message 548 - Posted: 6 Nov 2021, 14:01:39 UTC
I can vouch that the new 64-bit Linux/ARM 1.16 app is twice as fast as the 32-bit 1.15 app was on a 64-bit platform, what do I need to do to test the 64-bit Android app? Is signing up for the project on my Android 9 running Odroid-N2+ enough? ____________
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bearnol Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Dec 06 Posts: 290 Credit: 9,151,631 RAC: 8,046	Message 549 - Posted: 6 Nov 2021, 15:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 548.
There is no specific Android app - the idea is to use UserLAnd :) ____________
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Dirk Broer Send message Joined: 6 Dec 13 Posts: 14 Credit: 13,933,168 RAC: 34,939	Message 565 - Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 15:24:13 UTC - in response to Message 548.
I can vouch that the new 64-bit Linux/ARM 1.16 app is twice as fast as the 32-bit 1.15 app was on a 64-bit platform A verification of the factor two faster under Linux was obtained when I switched my two Raspberry Pi 3 Model B's from 32-bit Raspbian Buster to 64-bit Bullseye Raspberry Pi OS. Computing times went down from 18,000 seconds to 9,000 seconds. ____________
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bearnol Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Dec 06 Posts: 290 Credit: 9,151,631 RAC: 8,046	Message 566 - Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 17:23:21 UTC - in response to Message 565.
Thanks for that benchmark Dirk. I’ve yet to try a 64-bit OS on (one of) my Pi, though I think it could run it - it’s a Pi3B iirc. These days (since about 2017 :) I tend to use Amazon Fire tablets - which I can broadly recommend… J ____________
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bearnol Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Dec 06 Posts: 290 Credit: 9,151,631 RAC: 8,046	Message 567 - Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 17:57:41 UTC - in response to Message 566.
….mind you, I’ve got a holiday to Cambridge planned, from which I hope to bring home a Pi400 as a trophy! ____________
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There are both 32-bit and 64-bit x86 applications for Apple OS and Linux/x86, but so far the ARM application is only 32-bit and only for Linux/ARM

My idea is that the project will served by a 64-bit Linux/Aarch64 application in the view of Apple's move to ARM and the rise of 64-bit SBCs (e.g. Raspberry Pi 4, Odroid-N2)

Other missing platforms are Android/ARM, both 32-bit and 64-bit, and PPC (for old Macs, either OSX or Linux, both 32-bit and 64-bit).
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It’s on my todo list, coincidentally… (a 64-bit ARM Linux app) [so definitely agree]
Actually I’ve already made a suitable app, I believe, and am planning to install it on my test project very soon, and if all goes well hopefully live fairly soon after that - so watch this space…
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…though I suppose I ought to add:
Thanks very much to the UserLAnd devs for re-enabling 32-bit mode loading, which has at least allowed me (and us) to use the 32-bit app on Android.
In my early tests, the as-yet unreleased 64-bit app is almost exactly 4 times faster tho’
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I can vouch that the new 64-bit Linux/ARM 1.16 app is twice as fast as the 32-bit 1.15 app was on a 64-bit platform, what do I need to do to test the 64-bit Android app? Is signing up for the project on my Android 9 running Odroid-N2+ enough?
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There is no specific Android app - the idea is to use UserLAnd :)
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I can vouch that the new 64-bit Linux/ARM 1.16 app is twice as fast as the 32-bit 1.15 app was on a 64-bit platform

A verification of the factor two faster under Linux was obtained when I switched my two Raspberry Pi 3 Model B's from 32-bit Raspbian Buster to 64-bit Bullseye Raspberry Pi OS. Computing times went down from 18,000 seconds to 9,000 seconds.
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Thanks for that benchmark Dirk.
I’ve yet to try a 64-bit OS on (one of) my Pi, though I think it could run it - it’s a Pi3B iirc.
These days (since about 2017 :) I tend to use Amazon Fire tablets - which I can broadly recommend…
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….mind you, I’ve got a holiday to Cambridge planned, from which I hope to bring home a Pi400 as a trophy!
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