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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 503)
Posted 586 days ago by Profile marsinph
3. To enable server processing of completed results now would simply mean that 157,000 results will be past deadline. To extend the deadlines as a one-off would mean that some of them would count but, with the Transitioner Backlog now showing 36hrs and only 32hrs remaining on the challenge, I suspect even that would render this Sprint null and void.


I assume that retrospective credits can be awarded by someone running a script to recognise successfully completed tasks that were uploaded too late - and to then award credits...so some good can come out of this...not that this will benefit any team credits in the Sprint "window" - unless Sebastien extends the Sprint of course.

regards
Tim


Hi all

In the last day or so, I was able to upload and report a large batch of tasks that had been downloaded prior to the Sprint starting...but which were not able to be uploaded once the Sprint started, due to the project website not working as expected.

And these do seem to be getting validated and being awarded credits....even 5 days after their deadlines !

Hopefully others are in the same boat and will see some reward for their crunching efforts.

If that is the case then "kudos" to bearnol for perhaps twaeking the server to allow this.

And it's nice to see that the server is now back up and running OK.

regards
Tim


Hello Tim,
Also for me, WU out of deadline (well reported) are validated after deadline. So Bearnol have extend.
But like you say, no any reaction, no any comments, no any excuses, no any explanations, NOTHING only hide !
It is why i not agree.

A few days ago you suggested Sebastien to cancel the sprint. Your team will be the most impacted, but it is honnest for everyone.

Bearnol, unhide and explain your goal !!!
If you not more need the Boinc power, then remove your project (like Xanson did with the biggest honnor latest year).

Wait and see !!!
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 502)
Posted 586 days ago by Profile marsinph
I am not an expert like marsinph so I am not going to waste words here.

As far as Wanless and bearnol is concerned, he has achieved what he wanted. He is getting too much help that he does not need. Accordingly I am deleting the project and if I hear the name bearnol anywhere on the web, I will mark him Banned.



Hello Pete,
I have learn from you !!! You remember...2018...
I see you are very angry. I am also.
Now, all seems it works again with the usual problems. But no any reaction, no any explanation from Bearnol !!! Nothing !!! In his own Ivoor tower...
To compare 2019 , the very little PRJ Xanson", had aske to not participate on Sprint.
Here Bearnol, asked to participate.
There are only two possibilities : Sebastien (FB) is not responsible, or Bearnol play a very strange game.
I trust Seb (also when I not agree), but this time. ALL, I repeat ALL comes from
Bearnol who also published he did not want to retsart service.
Nice mentality !!!

Seb, please, I really think you need to cancel this sprint, exclude the PRJ.
I know, I will have enemy , because some teams will loose points.
But this suggestionis already suggested by UK Boinc Team who have the most to loose !!!

Bearnol, we wait you unhide !!!

Philippe

All of you, take care about your health
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 490)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
I've removed this project from my Linux hosts, and my suggestion would be that other Formula BOINC participants do so as well, to leave this project back to its usual number of dedicated participants.

Cheers to all!



Hello Crash,
I understand. It is sad.
All now, I repeat ALL, absolutely ALL is now in hand of Bearnol.
Also me , I am very disppointed of such inaction from admin.
Take care about health. Not fully disconnect WEP.
I suggest to set your boinc manager on "suspend" so you keep account.
Also your PIS, and more important your CPID on boincstats
Best regards
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 489)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
There's also another issue that could be more like BOINC's code issue, but if other projects can minimize the errors ... i don't understand why WEP couldn't. The issue was/is if you have a high core counts machine, I'd say more than 32 threads, it almost guarantee that you'll get a bunch of errors saying something like "file exit too long" (something like that, i can't remember exactly the words). The higher threads you have, the longer it took for the errors to phase out before everything running smoothly. My 64 threads machines usually took about 1/2 a day getting errors before it can be crunching full speed.Y'all don't have to take my words for it, attach a 64 threads machine and run it for a day and you'll see the issue still last until this day. So basically, when you want to contribute to this project and have a high thread count machine, expect to wasted 1/2 of a day of electricity.

I saw this happen on my 2 TR 2990WX boxes. That issue is clearly still there.



What is relation between your errors ans the server who is shutted down ???
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 488)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
Chelsea,
The trick to avoid, not all, but majority of the errors is start out with less than 32 threads. Says, starts 30 threads first ... then let it runs for about 10 minutes or so .. then start another 30 threads ... and so on. It's annoying to babysit each machine when I have to run this project, but better than wasting electricity.

Bearnol,
These issues like that need to be address. I know you're a 1 man show, but work on it when you can instead of ignoring it. Each error will cause BOINC to increase time to the next "update". You know it ... and if we get enough errors ... the next update could be a day later. Which means the computer just sit there idle waiting for the next update. More advance users will then write scripts to trickle the update every N minutes/seconds. And if a bunch of users doing that, it's like DDoS to your server.
My point is, by ignoring the problem, it can be backfire. You forced users to find ways to make it work for them because there's no one addressing the problem/issue.


Sorry, but outside de problem of disabling server !
You write about a DDos ??? There is no any such report !
I suggest you make a new post for the technical problem you encouter
6) Message boards : Number crunching : How to commit suicide ? How to destroy his own project ? How to loose support ? (Message 487)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
Very very easy ! Please read with humour (or not !?)
1. Register your project on Boinc
2. Ask your project to be added to competition on all world stats site
3. When competition start, close your project
4. Refuse to start validation and wait all WU are over deadline. So no credits
5. Ignore all remarks from cruncher
6. Not take action to solve the problem
7. Finally, publish " I will not start again for a little while..."

Bearnol I really do not know what you search,
I only see reaction here and on all concerned site.
UBT - Timbo publish very few. Here and also on all project ! It is a sign, but you ignore.
On SETIBZH, main site, one of the oldest user ever on Boinc from 1997, have also react !!! A person who never post (exept pure technical).
Knowing him, I am sure he will forward to Berkeley.

Bearnol, take example on Xanson admin (now closed) A admin who had refuse to participate. He explained why. Not enough WU, not enough server power. You NOT
Worst you have ask to koin.

If due to server, your project is unable to handle, a correct reaction, years ago, at start, it was to ask to not be added. But you asked to be added.
And this time, you can NO MORE invoque hardwaree problem. It was possible. But you have intentionnaly disable. Without any try. It is also the main attack from founder of UBT.

You, Bearnol support all responsability.
For sure not Sebastien from FB. I am often in opposition with him. But in this case, I fully support.

Bearnol, with your unhonnest attitude, I think you have kill your own project !

Philippe
Founder of BOINC.BE
7) Message boards : News : 12-digit factor of P2203 has now been found by the project... (Message 483)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
After what you did since start of sprint,
I think, you will wait much more time to find somethings.
The biggest cruncher of all around the world, started to help your project.
And you, have excluded everyone !!!
You will be the first admin, who close his own project during competition !
You have show that you not need Boinc.
I am like the most of cruncher and worst team founder angry, disappointed.
8) Message boards : News : 12-digit factor of P2203 has now been found by the project... (Message 482)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
After what you did sincfe start of sprint,
I think, you will wait much more time to find somethings.
The biggest cruncher of all around the world, started to help your project.
And you, have excluded everyone !!!
You will be the first admin, who close his own project during competition !
You have show that you not need Boinc.
I am like the most of cruncher and worst team founder angry, disappointed.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 481)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
This is a great flatline:



And because the site is using http, I have to use 301 redirects to get the image to load properly :D





Hello Kiska,

It is normal. Beranol have disable it. Intentionally disable and the worst he wrote he is not intend to restart it "...for a little while...."
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 473)
Posted 591 days ago by Profile marsinph
Hello everyone,
I fully agree and support the post of UBT-Timbo.
He summarize absolutely all.
I was preparing a very similar post. But my english level is not at top.
Thank you Tim

Bearnoil need to do something.

Best regards
Philippe
Founder of BOINC.BE
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 455)
Posted 592 days ago by Profile marsinph
Yeah, I could simply abort the many hundreds of completed WUs stuck in the pipe if bearnol would simply indicate that they will expire without being credited. Being kept in suspense and having to keep trying to contact the server is just no fun.



Hello, i understand your frustration. you are not alone. Not cancel, with hope admin will react !
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 454)
Posted 592 days ago by Profile marsinph
Hello everyone,
I think, the most of you knows who I am.
Not only here but on SETIBZH and also on all PRJ (due to Wide team in sense of Berkeley).
I am sad, like you. But it is. Admin of WEP seems to not react. Or not take action.
I have read all your comments. I fully agree. I mean fully agreee about bad managment.

Now, we, all of us who post reply, we are on race Formula Boinc.
All of us try to get the most point on FB.
Please, let me, allow me, to make a reflexion !
We race , all benefits for all PRJ. Everybody for his (her, I not forget womens) favorite.
Nice for scientist. But is it the most important in 2020 ?
With this fuc..g virus ? All of us are concerned, from close or far (I have chance, nobody in my family is reached)

Philosophical but realistic thinking ;
What I wanted to say : we all of us, cruncher, with all our computing power, it will be perhaps beter to concentrate all on research against it.
But never forget it is a virus (like AIDS) and against virus, we nothing can do. Only our body can win the fight.

I am surprised : no any (exept WCG , a very few) start, launch,... analyzes !!!
We, all of us, have a wonderfull computing power...

Sorry, I appologyze, this post have very few to make with the problem of the PRJ.
Take care. Stay at home.
The latest, US friends, you make me scare ! I see all your manifestation against the death of mistet Floyd. I fully without restristion support you. But please, put masker !!!

Best greetings from Belgium to everyone

Eventually bearnol, act instead of escape without any explanation.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 443)
Posted 592 days ago by Profile marsinph
Hi all (including marsinph...)
Thanks for your concerns, folks, and good wishes
All I can really suggest atm is possibly this thread:
http://bearnol.is-a-geek.com/wanless2/forum_thread.php?id=287
J



Hello instead to relate post from januar 2020, please, restart prtograms, extend deadline.
We all of us are sure, this Sprint can not run normally because you refuse to start server.
And you still nothing explain. It is unfair from a admin, project admin, developer and scientist.

I think more and more perople will go away. We spent energy to help, and nothing from your side seems to change.

You not answer all the questions about deadline, you nothing explain. It is sad.
A little tip : latest year : project Xanson. Also on Boinc, but admin had cintacted admin of SETIBZH, to be removed from the sprint....

I also see, following server status, you produce WU, but nobady can take it, you hold "feeder" off-line ! Why to produce if you refuse to send ???
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 436)
Posted 592 days ago by Profile marsinph
Hi all (and Damien)
So you guys have sprung a sprint on me, have you!!! :)
Don’t know how well the system’s going to cope... but I’m doing my best
J



Hello Bearnol, nobody have lauch a sprint or an attack on you or on your project ! If you think so, then you are fully wrong.
It is the world stats site (SETIBZH) who offer you an extra calculation power.
You decided to participate at this competetion by adding project on Boinc.
Now it is started, you close !

Can you start again all program from your server ?
You have intentionaly stopped it this friday apr 5th about 07:00 UTC. Why ?
You not need the extrra power ?

But be very attentive on bottleneck when you will start again : there are hundreds of users with totally more than 150.000 WU waiting report/validation/assimilation. The worst is that the most of those WU are very close deadline. For some it is a question of hours !!! What shall happens with it ?

It would be fair from you to answer, or at least to restart server.
If for some reasons, your server is not able to support this over load, contact as soon as possiblme the big boss of SETIBZH/FormulaBoinc ( "Sebastien" from Alliance Francophone).

Best regards.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Hi - FB Sprint (Message 431)
Posted 593 days ago by Profile marsinph
Hello,
Bearmol, perhaps i am wrong, but it seem you not know the sprint between all teams around the world !
Please visit http://formula-boinc.org/sprint.py?sprint=8&lang=&year=2020
All your servers needs to run.
But expect a huge load.
Happy crunch to everyone.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Still now answer about Windows. And nothing is mentionned before connecting. (Message 340)
Posted 1368 days ago by Profile marsinph
I personnaly find it would be nice if admin write from begining that this pproject is not for Windows suitable.
For sure besause it is very difficult to attach ( I understand it to prevent spam)
I suggest to publish "not for Windows" on start page.
It will prevent "ghost" wirh null credit user.

Or perhaps you will develope the app also for Windows. Personnaly, i not think because a few years ago, it was asked and till now no any answer from admin.

Best regards from Belgium
17) Questions and Answers : Windows : wanless2 | Messaggio dal server del progetto:: Il progetto non supporta questo tipo di computer windows_intelx86 (Message 339)
Posted 1369 days ago by Profile marsinph
So far I have see on all hosts, it is not a hardware problem.
It is operating system.
All running hosts are under Linux.
See on applications page : http://bearnol.is-a-geek.com/wanless2/apps.php




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